Do you think the fluoridation of water is population control?

Question

Firstly I will give you some snip its of an article I read (credible source). Please keep in mind that I had this theory before I went looking for answers - so it freaked me out even more when I found it. This is just one article, there are many more other reports.

Controversial fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUoride).

Sodium fluoride, a hazardous-waste by-product from the manufacture of aluminum, is a common ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, anesthetics, hypnotics, psychiatric drugs, and military nerve gas. It's historically been quite expensive to properly dispose of, until some aluminum industries with an overabundance of the stuff sold the public on the terrifically insane but highly profitable idea of buying it at a 20,000% markup, injecting it into our water supplies, and then DRINKING it.

Yes, a 20,000% markup: Fluoride-- intended only for human consumption by people under 14 years of age--is injected into our drinking water supply at approx. 1 part-per-million (ppm), but since we only drink 1/2 of one percent of the total water supply, the rest literally goes down the drain as a free hazardous-waste disposal for the chemical industry, where we PAY them so that we can flush their expensive hazardous waste down our toilets. How many salesmen dream of such a deal? (Follow the money.)

Independent scientific evidence repeatedly showing up over the past 50 years reveals that fluoride allegedly shortens our life span, promotes cancer and various mental disturbances, accelerates osteoporosis and broken hips in old folks, and makes us stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one package. There are reports of aluminum in the brain possibly being a causative factor in Alzheimer's Disease, and evidence points towards fluoride's strong affinity for aluminum and also its ability to "trick" the blood-brain barrier by looking like the hydrogen ion, and thus allowing chemical access to brain tissue.

Scientists who have attempted to blow the whistle on this mega-bucks PR ploy have consistently been given a very unscientific Black-PR treatment, and thus their valid points disputing the current vested interests never arrive in the press.

There is a tremendous amount of emotional, highly unscientific know-it-all attached to fluoridation. Many truly independent (unattached to any vested-interest) scientists who've spent a large portion of their lives studying and working with this subject have been subjected to a surprising amount of uncalled-for and unfair character assassination from strong vested-interest groups who profit from the public's ignorance as well as from their illnesses. (Follow the money.)

Let's begin at the beginning: The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)

What are your thoughts.

Answer 1

Not getting a lot of support in here, huh? I've never heard the angle that the purpose of fluoridation was population control, but I have read some about how fluoridation of the water came to be. Whether the motivation was simply profit or something more sinister, I do believe that fluoridation is a farce and has serious health consequences associated with it. Unfortunately when you try to tell people this they just look at you like you're nuts. All of those Colgate/Crest commercials can't be wrong...and the ADA recommends fluoridated toothpaste. The ADA, the same organization that for how many decades told us it was OK to walk around with big hunks of mercury in our mouths.

Wouldn't people be shocked to learn that for the first time in history a corporation put profits ahead of peoples well being? (SARCASM)

As to the idea that the government is using it for population control, I think the govt is complicit in many ways in keeping us unhealthy. Whether they are actively looking for ways to make us unhealthy or standing idly by while corporations profit from making us unhealthy, I am certain that the govt would prefer that we drop dead the day we retire. They certainly don't want us living long happy lives collecting Social Security into our nineties.

Thanks for the reference.

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I am just getting sick and tired of you unelightened people giving me thumbs down. Read a little, educate yourselves or better yet go drink some fluoridated water....really it's harmless!

Well, the point is that we don't get to choose. Fluoridated water is forced on us by the powers that be. I assume I have been drinking it all my life and until recently have been brushing with fluoridated toothpaste. If it's so great, then why do I have so many fillings? Nothing like a little mercury to make you crazy. no wonder I get so wound up sometimes.

And there have been incidents where people have been sickened by fluoridated water because they added too much to the water, and a boy who was killed at the dentists office after swallowing a fluoride treatment.

Slow poison does not mean no poison. Just because it doesn't kill you or harm you immediately doesn't mean that years of use will not harm you.

Answer 2

I got to the first paragraph and found a glaring error. First of all, fluorine is an atom contained in sarin. Naming it with fluoride (and it's fluoridate by the way) at the end is just a convention in naming compounds. Under IUPAC it's called 2-(Fluoro-methylphosphoryl)oxypropane. Cyanide contains nitrogen, but so do proteins. Does that mean proteins are dangerous? Carbon monoxide contains carbon and oxygen, but I doubt you'd claim that those are dangerous. And carbon is a major component of sarin, cyanide, botulin, tetanus toxin, snake venom, and every other organic poison, but would you then argue that carbon itself is poisonous?



Simply reading that first paragraph shows me that the writer has absolutely no chemical knowledge and that reading the rest is a waste of my time if the topic is anything to do with chemistry.



Fluoridated water is not dangerous. In fact, the reason why your teeth don't rot before the age of 20 (due to the excessive sucrose in our diets) is because of the fluoride ion. There has been extensive research into the effects of fluoridated water. Simply put, if it were dangerous, then why isn't EVERY person sick or sterile. We all drink fluoridated water.



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I read a tad bit further and the writer says that it tricks the BBB by looking like the hydrogen ion. This is ridiculous for many, many reasons. First, the hydrogen ion is positively charged. Fluoride is negative. Second, hydrogen ions don't diffuse through proton pumps alone. They ride on water molecules. They do not exist in aqueous solutions. Third, the blood brain barrier is a filter to polar and ionic substances. Any charged or polar substance CANNOT pass through it. Only nonpolar, uncharged molecules can pass.

These reasons are not the extent of the stupidity of that one statement alone. There are many others.

Answer 3

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That may or may not be true, but so what?



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The Gestapo didn't run Nazi prison camps. They were a policing and intelligence gathering organisation.



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Try looking on it as a compliment. If the "unenlightened" approved of your answers, then that'd be worrying. It's also worth bearing in mind that some people think it's entertaining to have so much power, that they can operate a little thingy on a computer screen.

Answer 4

No.



The dishonest pseudoscientists who pitch these lies are lower than ambulance chasing attorneys and do far more harm. The false equating fluoride and fluorine shows the extent of the dishonesty that the proponents of the lie. It is convenient that they do not mention it as a component of the life saving antibiotic ciprofloxacin, and the other members of its class, the FLUOROquinolones. The appeal to emotion, citing a controversial drug and a poison, shows the nature of their fraud.



The "scientists" who you call whistle blowers have no evidence, just jargon. They are the ones out for a buck, harming the gullible.

Answer 5

fluoride meets all the criteria of an essential mineral in that lack of it in the diet or if present in insuifficient amounts a disease ( dental caries ) will develop that can be alleviated with supplementation. The amount in toothpaste or in water supplies is quite low and except in extreme cases ( like use of superphosphates for animal P needs ) intoxication with F is not gonna happen. Besides hardening the enamel of teeth by forming apatite crystals on the surface of the hydroxyapatite matrix of teeth....F helps control the myriad of oral bacteria doing their metabolic things in the mouth...this may lower chances of gingivitis and related gum diseases. JCS do as you wish..but as for me ..I want to keep my teeth..and I doubt seriously if the government has a new plan on the table to forec us all to wear dentures ....

Answer 6

Considering the baby boom happened after the fluoridation I would say the theory doesn't work.

Answer 7

no.